| Federal coordination |
Lack of federal coordination and interfederal disarticulation at the interstate border |
"I think the Ministry of Health is a bit far from reality, especially now." (Regional Health Manager) "Only in the beginning. I don't feel any representation from the federal government." (Municipal Health Secretary I) "The Ministry approved it and followed it up, in fact, but after that, it no longer took part in any meetings, you know? There's no longer this assiduous monitoring of the country's public policy in relation to this. It was a model that could even be used in other states, right? But today I feel especially that this absence of the Ministry of Health..." (Municipal Health Secretary III) "Then, in this discussion, right, of the network, there was thought of integrated, interstate planning, an integrated budget, but it seems that it didn't come to fruition. There was no interstate PPI; no interstate budget, because what some people say is: 'This isn't legislated. It hasn't been legislated yet.' How do I take resources from one state and pass them on to another? That is legislated at the state and municipal level." (Interstate Regulation Manager). "Until then, there was no legal way to transfer resources. So, at the time, the idea was to exchange services." (Interstate Regulation Manager) |
| Inter-managerial agreement |
Low institutionalization of interstate agreements |
"A lot of things haven't progressed in terms of funding and the PPI issue because we didn't reach an agreement. There was an exchange. I take my patient there because it's a reference. They bring them here from there because here is the reference. But that is not part of the PPI. It's a gentlemen's agreement." (Municipal Health Secretary V) "So there was no discussion about the PPI in the state of Pernambuco. And in Bahia there was already something more dynamic. How were we going to do the interstate PPI? Put the two documents together? Take the hospital resources from the PPI of the two states and then do the interstate PPI? [...]." (Municipal Health Secretary IV) "If I were to say what our collegial bodies were like; when they started... warm, the room full, everyone full of ideas, pointing out strategies for how we should behave... that was the scenario. Today, we spent 2015 and 2016 without the collegial body being able to meet [...] was this complacency, this lack of prioritization, just the state of Bahia? If I were to say that it was only the state of Bahia, maybe I wouldn't be telling you the truth. But we can see that Pernambuco hasn't prioritized this network either." (Regional Health Manager I) "How do you get anything done? And then comes what we think is the question of "tidying up" or influence or influence peddling. I know someone who, if I call her, she'll get me an appointment for an ergometric test, an echocardiogram, an electroneuromyography." (Regional Health Manager I) |
| Funding |
Inter-municipal fiscal inequalities and financial dependence |
"The municipalities complain that they don't have the resources and can't go it alone; I need support; always presenting themselves as the poor cousin. I can't do it and I always need support." (Municipal Health Secretary IV) "Petrolina has received a very heavy load of demand. Let's put it this way ... not only Petrolina, but all the main municipalities are taking on more and more responsibilities. And then we see that their condition of being a main municipality and being the headquarters for other municipalities is stagnating. It's been diminishing because of the lack of infrastructure in these municipalities, the lack of money, of resources, right?" (Municipal Health Secretary I) "What is passed on to these municipalities also leaves a lot to be desired, it doesn't cover them, and the municipalities in the region as a whole, recognizing this, recognizing the underfunding of health, have invested in outpatient therapy." (Representative of the Economic Group of the Region) |
| Alternation of party political power |
Political-administrative alternation in management spheres |
“Look, I realize that the two states have reached a point where, when there's a change of management, it seems that the projects belong to the manager. The PEBA project was the responsibility of Solla's administration and the responsibility of the administration in Pernambuco. It's as if that project no longer exists... And here in Bahia, it was the same party that kept it going." (State Manager for Medium and High Complexity) "Unfortunately or fortunately, there's the electoral period. And the electoral period in the municipality is different from that in the state. So what happens? This year's managers, for example, are all new. And what happens? Most of the managers are unaware of this interstate network and what has been agreed." (Interstate Regulation Manager II) |
| Interstate bed regulation |
Low governability of interstate bed regulation |
"The CRIL has no problem with the regulatory process. The problem is the shortage of vacancies, because we have no guarantee that the Regional Hospital of Juazeiro will perform the trauma and orthopedic surgeries that have been contracted. We can't expand the SOTE surgeries; resume the surgeries at the hospital in S. do Bonfim; regulate the patients to the CHESF hospital in Paulo Afonso, etc." (Interstate Regulation Manager II) "So what happens? In Bahia we use SUREN and in Pernambuco we use SISREG for ICU beds, but for urgencies and emergencies it's by e-mail. So we use several systems and they don't talk to each other, there's no interaction by unit." (Municipal Regulation Manager) |